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Other driver's insurance accepted 100% fault — why does my repair bill still show I owe money?

Okay so I'm genuinely baffled and could use some help from people who've been through this.

About three weeks ago someone ran a red light and T-boned me. Pretty clear-cut situation — there's a traffic cam, witnesses, the whole thing. The other driver's insurance called me pretty quickly and said they were accepting full liability. Great, right?

So I took my car to a body shop for an estimate. The shop sent me this breakdown and it shows the total repair cost, then a line that says "insurance pays" one amount, and then a separate line that says "customer owes" a few hundred dollars.

I'm sitting here like… wait. If the at-fault driver's insurance is covering 100% of the fault, why am I on the hook for anything? I thought full liability meant exactly that — they cover the full bill. I didn't cause this accident. I was literally sitting at a red light.

Is the "customer owes" amount my deductible? Because I thought deductibles only apply when you go through your own insurance. Does it work differently when you're going through the other person's liability coverage?

Or is the shop maybe billing it weird and I'm reading this wrong? Has anyone dealt with something like this before?

I really don't want to pay anything out of pocket for damage I didn't cause, and I also don't want to make waves and slow down the repair process. But this doesn't feel right. Any insight appreciated. 🙏

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    tidy-dove-495

    I went through almost this exact thing last year. What happened in my case was the shop was just formatting their estimate weird — they were showing what my OWN insurance would cover vs. my deductible, even though I was actually going through the at-fault driver's policy. Once I clarified with the shop that I was a third-party claimant (not going through my own coverage), the "amount owed" line disappeared. Worth double-checking which policy the shop actually has on file.

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      gentle-neighbor655

      This is exactly what I needed to read today. Thank you.

  • 21
    clever-sparrow-446

    Don't assume that "accepting full liability" means they'll just write a blank check without pushback. Insurers say that phrase and then quietly try to introduce things like "betterment charges" or dispute certain line items on the estimate. That "customer owes" amount might be one of those. Ask the adjuster to send you something in writing that breaks down exactly what they're refusing to cover and why. If they can't justify it, push back hard.

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    candid-swan-694

    Former adjuster here. A few things could be happening. First — and most likely — the shop entered your claim as if it were going through YOUR collision coverage, which would mean your deductible shows up. That's a data entry issue, not a real obligation. Second possibility: the at-fault insurer is only paying what they call "prevailing rate" for parts or labor, and anything above that gets passed to you. That second scenario is genuinely worth challenging. Call the liability adjuster directly (not the shop) and ask them to confirm in plain language that your out-of-pocket should be zero. Get it in writing if you can.

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      thankful-backseat685

      Saving this whole thread. Really appreciate the honesty here.

  • 14
    bold-crow-550

    Just to clarify the deductible thing since it confused me too when I first started working around these cases: deductibles are a feature of your policy, not the at-fault party's. When you're a third-party claimant on someone else's liability coverage, there is no deductible applied to you. So if that line on the estimate really is a deductible, it shouldn't be there. The shop might just be using a template that auto-populates that field.

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    careful-otter-407

    Call the at-fault driver's insurance adjuster today. Don't go through the shop as a middleman. Tell them exactly what you told us — they accepted full liability, and you need confirmation that your out-of-pocket is zero before you authorize repairs. Get the adjuster's name, get a confirmation number, and ideally get an email. This is probably a simple mix-up but you want it sorted BEFORE the car goes into the shop, not after.

    • 21
      bright-crow-622

      Not legal advice, but this is worth a quick call with someone who knows personal injury — especially if the at-fault insurer starts throwing out terms like "partial betterment" or "non-OEM parts surcharge" to justify that balance. Those are real things insurers use to shift costs onto claimants who don't know to push back. A lot of PI attorneys will give you a free consultation just to talk through whether you're being handled fairly.

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      quiet-neighbor387

      Wish I had seen this a month ago — would have saved me a lot of stress.

  • 18
    quiet-sparrow-996

    Ugh, this sounds so stressful on top of already dealing with the accident itself. I hope you're doing okay physically. Don't let them railroad you into paying something you don't owe — you did nothing wrong here.

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    plain-marmot-021

    Can you share more about what the estimate actually says? Like is the word "deductible" used anywhere, or does it say something else like "non-covered amount" or "customer responsibility"? The exact wording matters a lot here because those could mean very different things and the fix for each is different.