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Adjuster just told me I'm 0% owed because of my state's fault rules — is this real??

okay so I need someone to tell me if I'm being played right now or if this is genuinely how things work.

Got hit a couple weeks ago — other driver ran a stop sign on a side street and clipped the whole rear quarter panel of my car. Pretty clear-cut situation, right? Wrong apparently.

The other driver's insurance company called me this morning and the adjuster said that because I was "traveling slightly above the posted limit" (I was not, or at least not meaningfully so), I share some portion of fault. He threw out a small percentage. And then — here's the wild part — he said because my state follows something called pure contributory negligence, even that tiny sliver of shared fault means they owe me absolutely nothing.

I almost laughed because it sounded so absurd. But then I spent like two hours reading about it and... it appears to actually be a real legal doctrine that only a handful of states still use? Like if you're even slightly at fault you're completely barred from recovery. That feels genuinely medieval to me.

My bumper and rear panel are pretty mangled — not cheap damage. I'm not seriously injured thankfully, mostly just sore and irritated. But I really don't want to run this through my own insurance if I don't have to because my rates are already painful.

So my actual questions:

  • Is the adjuster using this as an opening scare tactic, or do they actually fight tooth and nail over tiny fault percentages?
  • Is it worth pushing back and disputing the fault finding, or am I just legally stuck?
  • Has anyone successfully gotten anywhere with a claim like this without a lawyer?

Feeling pretty powerless over here. Any experience with contributory negligence states appreciated 😞

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    cool-elk-519

    Oh this is absolutely a tactic. Adjusters in contributory negligence states know exactly what they're doing when they drop that phrase on you. They're betting you'll panic, feel defeated, and either go away or file through your own insurance — which takes them completely off the hook. Don't accept anything they say about fault as final. That's just their opening position, not a legal ruling.

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      candid-tern-174

      I'll be honest with you because I used to sit on that side of the desk. In states with contributory negligence, yes — we were trained to look for ANY hook to hang a shared-fault argument on. Speed, lane position, reaction time, whatever. It doesn't have to be airtight. The goal is to make you doubt yourself enough to walk away. If you push back with any documentation (dashcam, witness statements, police report that assigns fault to the other driver), the calculus changes pretty fast internally.

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    candid-finch-006

    A few things worth knowing: first, an adjuster saying you share fault is NOT a legal determination. It's their company's position. Second, if there's a police report that cites the other driver for running the stop sign, that's significant evidence that contradicts their narrative. Third, contributory negligence is a defense that would have to be proven in court — it's not something an adjuster gets to just declare. Disputing their fault finding in writing is usually step one.

  • 12
    hearty-bison-654

    Went through almost the exact same thing last year. Different state, same "you share some fault" nonsense after someone else clearly caused the crash. I sent a formal dispute letter citing the police report and a witness statement, and suddenly their position shifted. Didn't go away entirely but they stopped with the contributory negligence angle. It's worth fighting, genuinely.

  • 20
    warm-wren-508

    Not legal advice, but contributory negligence is real and it is harsh — courts in those states have upheld it even when plaintiff fault was minimal. That said, the adjuster's claim that you were speeding still has to be supported by something. If the evidence doesn't back it up, a lawyer can often get that fault finding reversed before it ever becomes a legal issue. Most PI attorneys in contributory negligence states offer free consults specifically because this comes up constantly. Might be worth one call just to understand your position.

    • 8
      calm-swan-864

      You mentioned you're mostly sore — please don't brush that off completely. Soft tissue stuff from an impact like that can take days or even a couple of weeks to fully show up. I'd at least get checked out so there's a record if anything does develop. From a claims standpoint, having no medical documentation at all can also weaken your position if this goes further.

  • 17
    spry-stoat-543

    Get the police report, read every word of it, and find out if the other driver was cited. If they were and you weren't, send that to the adjuster in writing and tell them you're disputing their fault assessment. Don't call — email or letter so everything is documented. Then wait and see if their tune changes before you decide whether to escalate.

  • 14
    quick-kestrel-359

    A couple of things I'd want to know more about — was there actually a speed limit sign clearly posted where this happened, and do you know if anyone witnessed the accident? "Slightly above the posted limit" is vague enough that it could mean a lot of things. Also, did they give you anything in writing about the fault determination or was this just a phone call? Because verbal positions from adjusters can shift pretty quickly once you start asking for things in writing.

  • 17
    silent-hare-744

    This sounds so stressful, I'm sorry you're dealing with it. The fact that someone ran a stop sign and hit you and somehow you're the one scrambling to figure out if you get anything... the system really does feel broken sometimes. Hope you get some good answers here and can find a path forward 💙

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      curious-parent344

      Solid advice. Getting it in writing is the part most people skip.